bugsbunny
04-21 02:24 PM
Please call the White house and talk to President directly...May be we should be able to get this done by May 1st. Keep us updated.
wow and the mocking continues...
wow and the mocking continues...
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walking_dude
09-22 02:10 PM
Let me be objective, as much I can be, here.
....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......
Dear Sir, you didn't attend ,thinking that it was unworthy of postphoning a meeting. And yet you lament not more than 2,000 attended.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such statements.
.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc........who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!
The core issue is the same, back then and today - fight against Injustice, ill-treatment of human beings by Government.
Here's why Gandhi inspires people like me in our struggle.
"BE the change you'd like to see in the World" ( Gandhi's polite way of saying - cribbing doesn't help. Do it yourself, or ....)
He also said - " It's a bigger sin to suffer injustice than committing it" . [ He wasn't appreciative about Do-Nothings. Not at all. He called them the "greater sinners", as their silence encourages even more injustice]
I agree with you on one thing though. Gandhis struggle was bigger than ours. Ours is nothing compared to it - You talk of no "background checks" in Gandhis time... when people used to be beaten on their head for marching peacefully. Many of them would bleed to death. Our struggle may be inspired by Gandhiji, but we will never be able to match the sacrifices made by othose martyrs. We may be inspired by Gandhis principles, but we can never be the Gandhi.
But the least we can do to respect that great man, is to follow some of his principles (like those stated above) in to our daily lives. Is that too much to ask?
Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.
Another of those arm-chair conspiracy theories. Knowledge retention is critical to companys success. A guy fresh out of college is never equivalent a guy with several years of experience in the same field. Dollar value is dropping, Rupee is rising, salaries in India are rising. If people cannot get GC in a short period of time, there would very little incentive in coming and working here. As you must be aware most H1s these days are used to outsource work to India (by Infy and others), and not to get people to work permanently here. I suggest you read the Kauffman report thoroughly to understand the situation.
.....to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........
I admire your gall in dismissing us as shameless, self-serving, unpatriotic liars,in polite words of course , while doing absolutely nothing to help our cause.
Let me put this politely. "Don't do unto others, what you don't want others do unto you". Don't cast aspersions others, if you don't others to cast aspersions on you.
so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
Dear Sir, what do YOU suggest that we do? You think peaceful rallies won't work. On the one hand, you suggest only disobedience movement will work. On the other, you scare us ,saying if we do that we are in deep-six.
In other words, you'd have us 'Do Nothing At All', and hope that our issues will vanish miraculously by the magic of Harry Potter.
Dear Sir, you deserve a Noble prize for your theories
....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......
Dear Sir, you didn't attend ,thinking that it was unworthy of postphoning a meeting. And yet you lament not more than 2,000 attended.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such statements.
.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc........who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!
The core issue is the same, back then and today - fight against Injustice, ill-treatment of human beings by Government.
Here's why Gandhi inspires people like me in our struggle.
"BE the change you'd like to see in the World" ( Gandhi's polite way of saying - cribbing doesn't help. Do it yourself, or ....)
He also said - " It's a bigger sin to suffer injustice than committing it" . [ He wasn't appreciative about Do-Nothings. Not at all. He called them the "greater sinners", as their silence encourages even more injustice]
I agree with you on one thing though. Gandhis struggle was bigger than ours. Ours is nothing compared to it - You talk of no "background checks" in Gandhis time... when people used to be beaten on their head for marching peacefully. Many of them would bleed to death. Our struggle may be inspired by Gandhiji, but we will never be able to match the sacrifices made by othose martyrs. We may be inspired by Gandhis principles, but we can never be the Gandhi.
But the least we can do to respect that great man, is to follow some of his principles (like those stated above) in to our daily lives. Is that too much to ask?
Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.
Another of those arm-chair conspiracy theories. Knowledge retention is critical to companys success. A guy fresh out of college is never equivalent a guy with several years of experience in the same field. Dollar value is dropping, Rupee is rising, salaries in India are rising. If people cannot get GC in a short period of time, there would very little incentive in coming and working here. As you must be aware most H1s these days are used to outsource work to India (by Infy and others), and not to get people to work permanently here. I suggest you read the Kauffman report thoroughly to understand the situation.
.....to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........
I admire your gall in dismissing us as shameless, self-serving, unpatriotic liars,in polite words of course , while doing absolutely nothing to help our cause.
Let me put this politely. "Don't do unto others, what you don't want others do unto you". Don't cast aspersions others, if you don't others to cast aspersions on you.
so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
Dear Sir, what do YOU suggest that we do? You think peaceful rallies won't work. On the one hand, you suggest only disobedience movement will work. On the other, you scare us ,saying if we do that we are in deep-six.
In other words, you'd have us 'Do Nothing At All', and hope that our issues will vanish miraculously by the magic of Harry Potter.
Dear Sir, you deserve a Noble prize for your theories
anantc
08-26 11:07 AM
My labor was put as just "computer programmer" with my US experience as 4 yrs experience on top of having BE + Masters (From India). My I-140 for EB2 got denied and my company forced it to refile in EB3, which got approved recently.. but then am in the long queue of I-1485.
Initially it was queue for Labor in 2003 which took 2+ years, then I-140 2yrs for getting EB2-denial and then another year for EB3-approval of I-140. Now waiting for I-485 since 2007 July.
:eek:
Initially it was queue for Labor in 2003 which took 2+ years, then I-140 2yrs for getting EB2-denial and then another year for EB3-approval of I-140. Now waiting for I-485 since 2007 July.
:eek:
2011 so then I relaxed.. now

msgrewal81
03-22 11:19 PM
I think its only 1 time amnesty to all aliens who were present 5 years from date of enactment of this law, if it becomes a law.
Sorry bro....they will not give amnesty to you. ammendments in bills will make sure that legal people like you and me are excluded from this amnesty. read my post above.....
Sorry bro....they will not give amnesty to you. ammendments in bills will make sure that legal people like you and me are excluded from this amnesty. read my post above.....
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lskreddy
05-21 12:38 PM
I140 at TSC is August 26th. Several others and I have their July apps pending. Gosh, this concurrent crap without current PD is playing havoc in several of our lives..
What a nightmare and sad state of affairs.
What a nightmare and sad state of affairs.
gc101
08-02 12:40 PM
So gc101 would be safe if his PD becomes current before his file is pre-adj or get's stuck (!) in something like FBI namecheck after pre-adj. which might allow him time to add his wife's name.
So, what you mean is, I would be better off to hope that my name gets stuck somewhere in the namecheck or RFE or something for me to have enough time to get my spouse added in time BEFORE my I-485 gets approved. Did I understand it right?
gc101.
So, what you mean is, I would be better off to hope that my name gets stuck somewhere in the namecheck or RFE or something for me to have enough time to get my spouse added in time BEFORE my I-485 gets approved. Did I understand it right?
gc101.
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ragz4u
05-11 11:47 AM
I'll believe it when i see it.
I have heard and seen far too many such "stunts" and public displays to be excited just yet.
But it would be disastrous in terms of PR if even this fails. But like you, I would not hold my breath for this but am cautiously optimistic at the same time.
Also, please realize that any changes to the bill will meet absolute resistance from both sides. We will have to wait and see how many amendments are they planning on allowing.....
I have heard and seen far too many such "stunts" and public displays to be excited just yet.
But it would be disastrous in terms of PR if even this fails. But like you, I would not hold my breath for this but am cautiously optimistic at the same time.
Also, please realize that any changes to the bill will meet absolute resistance from both sides. We will have to wait and see how many amendments are they planning on allowing.....
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maverick6993
03-27 10:52 AM
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/s...200603098.html. In this Link that i had posted sometime back. They have mentioned about Srinivas Thiru nagari who founded a company called cs solutions. Can we contact him?
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sidchhikara
05-14 03:21 PM
In America - anybody can say a racial slur against you and they will not be prosecuted under law - you can also do the same without fear of prosecution. Although both of you might loose your jobs because you work for a private company - they have the right to fire anybody they want. First and foremost - please respect the freedom of speech - words dont kill!
Here are a few things that might help shut up folks who talk against you...
1) There is no reason to be overly sentimental about anything (being sentimental and having a sense of entitlement is a desi trait that needs to be gotten rid of as soon as you get off that plane at the airport - it is something that should not have been there in the first place. You are not special, this is not your country, the ppl over here are not dumb, you are here on business and maintain that attitude. If somebody misbehaves with you tell outside of work, them to f*** off - if somebody does that at work - you can reply to them without using abusive language - because abusive language might get you fired. If you HR is effective complain to them - but I prefer to handle it at an individual level - because I am not scared - thats the beauty of America)
2) Dress properly - get a haircut and dont use cooking oil instead of gel. Get rid of the moustache if you have one. Make sure you dont stink. Dressing up smartly elevates your image - remember this country is very image conscious - which I think it should be. Dressing nicely and smelling good will not hurt anybody. To all desi women - please get rid of all the facial + body hair that is visible. Please wear makeup - because you may not be naturally beautiful. Donot act like slobs - nobody likes that.
3) Respect boundaries and dont make other ppl smell your food.
4) Be positive in your attitude, improve your communication skills and dont act servile.
5) Most desis are hard working and responsible people - nothing should hold them back - not certainly the need for an image makeover.
All fellow desis take care and enjoy your life here - life is too short to be depressed about the green card everyday. Most important thing is you stay happy everyday - here or in India.
Here are a few things that might help shut up folks who talk against you...
1) There is no reason to be overly sentimental about anything (being sentimental and having a sense of entitlement is a desi trait that needs to be gotten rid of as soon as you get off that plane at the airport - it is something that should not have been there in the first place. You are not special, this is not your country, the ppl over here are not dumb, you are here on business and maintain that attitude. If somebody misbehaves with you tell outside of work, them to f*** off - if somebody does that at work - you can reply to them without using abusive language - because abusive language might get you fired. If you HR is effective complain to them - but I prefer to handle it at an individual level - because I am not scared - thats the beauty of America)
2) Dress properly - get a haircut and dont use cooking oil instead of gel. Get rid of the moustache if you have one. Make sure you dont stink. Dressing up smartly elevates your image - remember this country is very image conscious - which I think it should be. Dressing nicely and smelling good will not hurt anybody. To all desi women - please get rid of all the facial + body hair that is visible. Please wear makeup - because you may not be naturally beautiful. Donot act like slobs - nobody likes that.
3) Respect boundaries and dont make other ppl smell your food.
4) Be positive in your attitude, improve your communication skills and dont act servile.
5) Most desis are hard working and responsible people - nothing should hold them back - not certainly the need for an image makeover.
All fellow desis take care and enjoy your life here - life is too short to be depressed about the green card everyday. Most important thing is you stay happy everyday - here or in India.
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lazycis
06-12 01:07 PM
LazyCIS,
The case is not in his wife's hand anymore. As soon as the police came on site the case is People Vs Terriblething. Only thing is that the DA may be a little weary of pushing too much if his only eye witness (the Wife) does not want to push the matter.
TerribleThing,
You really really need to consult another lawyer who has better relationship with the DA.
It cannot be people vs terriblething. It could be state/federal agency v. terriblething. I agree that credibility of the complaint can be easily attacked if wife gives contradicting statement.
terriblething, you may want to read this
http://www.divorcenet.com/states/new_jersey/domestic_violence_defense
The case is not in his wife's hand anymore. As soon as the police came on site the case is People Vs Terriblething. Only thing is that the DA may be a little weary of pushing too much if his only eye witness (the Wife) does not want to push the matter.
TerribleThing,
You really really need to consult another lawyer who has better relationship with the DA.
It cannot be people vs terriblething. It could be state/federal agency v. terriblething. I agree that credibility of the complaint can be easily attacked if wife gives contradicting statement.
terriblething, you may want to read this
http://www.divorcenet.com/states/new_jersey/domestic_violence_defense
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ponvas
08-22 03:51 PM
If USCIS works round the clock, working all 200 days of an year, atleast giving green card every day for 100 applicants then from now 3 to 4 years is really optimistic and certainly possible . But I'll say better for to says atleast 5 years from now.
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ganguteli
04-02 01:03 PM
Then call senator grassley and ask these questions and prove you have the BALLS!!!! Otherwise you know what it means.
Best answer I have seen in a long time.:D
Best answer I have seen in a long time.:D
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bigtime007
06-28 12:24 PM
Does this indicate that all dates will be 'C' in July?
Maybe this means August VB will retrogress?
Maybe this means August VB will retrogress?
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rockstart
07-31 01:02 PM
Does any one know how many visa# have been used for 2009 quota?.
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eb3retro
01-12 04:12 PM
The link is still not working. But I did make a payment to your email id. Please check it out. and let me know.
eb3retro,
I tested it now and it is working. Earlier, PayPal's website was very slow and probably that caused some problem for you. Can you check it now?
If it is still not working, our PayPal email id is "donations at immigrationvoice dot org"
eb3retro,
I tested it now and it is working. Earlier, PayPal's website was very slow and probably that caused some problem for you. Can you check it now?
If it is still not working, our PayPal email id is "donations at immigrationvoice dot org"
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belmontboy
06-12 11:54 AM
I was charged Class 1 misdemeanor with battery at California. If I finally reject DA offer (only waive Jail time, but keep the same charge and 52 weeks anger control classes plus 3 yr probation), I have to go jury trial middle of July.
My wife and I just kid around at our apartment, she suddenly scream as pee on pants. (probably from my holding, but at least it is un-intent accident) but she did not tell me the reason that time. As she scream very loudly like be out of control. I try to comfort her but no result :(. Then 2 neighbors call 911. Cop comes, my wife said we kidding around, but not say the real reason for embarassment, sure there is no injury, no mark. But I am so stupid to describe the detail and said word "drag", In my poor English, drag is not that serious. Actually I just lift and hold my wife and try to move her to study room as she want to go there. That's all. But that time, I did not realize that serious. That cop record I am irritated and drag my wife's hand and push her to computer chair ( I really not said that push to chair thing), then she screaming! I was immediatedly arrested that time and leave the fingerprint at police office.
Then I hired a criminal attorney, but DA refuse to dismiss or reduce my class 1 level charge. Only waive the jail time. My attorney said my own statement is not good for me and easy to be attacked.... he tried to persuade me accept offer... :(
I feel really upset but hardly to accept DA's plead to guilty offer. Both my wife and I think I did nothing wrong. Now my wife try to contact DA through email.
I prepare the worst thing, if lose the case in jury, will my GC gone? I filed 485 last June and fingerprint August/2007. The arrest happen at earlier March. And worst case, will I be deported immediately? Now I still in H1, expired at 2011.
Really appreciated if you can give me any advice.:(
Dude r u kidding? :eek:
If your wife say's it was a bad joke, then the whole case is over?
My wife and I just kid around at our apartment, she suddenly scream as pee on pants. (probably from my holding, but at least it is un-intent accident) but she did not tell me the reason that time. As she scream very loudly like be out of control. I try to comfort her but no result :(. Then 2 neighbors call 911. Cop comes, my wife said we kidding around, but not say the real reason for embarassment, sure there is no injury, no mark. But I am so stupid to describe the detail and said word "drag", In my poor English, drag is not that serious. Actually I just lift and hold my wife and try to move her to study room as she want to go there. That's all. But that time, I did not realize that serious. That cop record I am irritated and drag my wife's hand and push her to computer chair ( I really not said that push to chair thing), then she screaming! I was immediatedly arrested that time and leave the fingerprint at police office.
Then I hired a criminal attorney, but DA refuse to dismiss or reduce my class 1 level charge. Only waive the jail time. My attorney said my own statement is not good for me and easy to be attacked.... he tried to persuade me accept offer... :(
I feel really upset but hardly to accept DA's plead to guilty offer. Both my wife and I think I did nothing wrong. Now my wife try to contact DA through email.
I prepare the worst thing, if lose the case in jury, will my GC gone? I filed 485 last June and fingerprint August/2007. The arrest happen at earlier March. And worst case, will I be deported immediately? Now I still in H1, expired at 2011.
Really appreciated if you can give me any advice.:(
Dude r u kidding? :eek:
If your wife say's it was a bad joke, then the whole case is over?
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Dhundhun
06-26 04:22 AM
Hi
I am applying for AP (new). Are they issued with 1 year validity or 2 years ( now that EAD is being given for 2 years)?
I have not heard 2 year AP yet from USCIS. As far as EAD is concerned, we will start getting 2 year EAD from Jun 30.
There was some proposal of single EAD/AP card, but heard no progress on that.
I am applying for AP (new). Are they issued with 1 year validity or 2 years ( now that EAD is being given for 2 years)?
I have not heard 2 year AP yet from USCIS. As far as EAD is concerned, we will start getting 2 year EAD from Jun 30.
There was some proposal of single EAD/AP card, but heard no progress on that.
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ragz4u
03-02 08:13 AM
If I had my green card today, I would surely be making at least 15K more in my salary per annum repeat per annum.
If not all, many of you are in the similar situation.
My $200 contribution is just 1.33% of that lost opportunity per annum. If I take into consideration the 4 years of wait, it comes to 0.33%.
Almost anybody who is in US for 5 years on H1B can buy an nice little home. (Bay area is bit more cruel).
Last year I could have bought a home for say 500K. It would have surely appreciated by 50K. But because of the uncertainty of GC, I can not. That's a loss of opportunity of 50K.
My $200 contribution is just 0.4% of that another lost opportunity.
Now you know why I support this effort.
Most of you and your friends are in a situation similar as mine.
I urge you to become aware, make them aware and support this effort, which has a potential to minimize those lost financial opportunities, with your wallet.
Thanks,
nviren
Very well said nviren. I would like to take this a step further.
There are 1000+ members on these forums. If everyone contributes 200$, we will have $200K. That way, the core volunteers can concentrate on getting the work done by working with QGA/lawmakers etc instead of worrying about our survival for the next month.
If we can get double this membership (each member gets one more member on board), our contributions per head can come down to just $100.
Then nviren's contributions as compared to his lost opportunities will get reduced by 50% ($200 to $100) ! So his contribution compared to the lost opportunity in terms of annual increase if he changes his job is now down from 0.33% to 0.17%.On the other hand, if we each get 5 more members, his contribution($200 to $40)/opportunity percentage is down to 0.065%....
What we can do as a group now is
a) Contribute our part
b) Get as many friends as we can to become members of IV.
If not all, many of you are in the similar situation.
My $200 contribution is just 1.33% of that lost opportunity per annum. If I take into consideration the 4 years of wait, it comes to 0.33%.
Almost anybody who is in US for 5 years on H1B can buy an nice little home. (Bay area is bit more cruel).
Last year I could have bought a home for say 500K. It would have surely appreciated by 50K. But because of the uncertainty of GC, I can not. That's a loss of opportunity of 50K.
My $200 contribution is just 0.4% of that another lost opportunity.
Now you know why I support this effort.
Most of you and your friends are in a situation similar as mine.
I urge you to become aware, make them aware and support this effort, which has a potential to minimize those lost financial opportunities, with your wallet.
Thanks,
nviren
Very well said nviren. I would like to take this a step further.
There are 1000+ members on these forums. If everyone contributes 200$, we will have $200K. That way, the core volunteers can concentrate on getting the work done by working with QGA/lawmakers etc instead of worrying about our survival for the next month.
If we can get double this membership (each member gets one more member on board), our contributions per head can come down to just $100.
Then nviren's contributions as compared to his lost opportunities will get reduced by 50% ($200 to $100) ! So his contribution compared to the lost opportunity in terms of annual increase if he changes his job is now down from 0.33% to 0.17%.On the other hand, if we each get 5 more members, his contribution($200 to $40)/opportunity percentage is down to 0.065%....
What we can do as a group now is
a) Contribute our part
b) Get as many friends as we can to become members of IV.
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aristotle
02-07 12:20 PM
It all depends on the job requirements. MS+0 or BS+5 is considered as EB2. May be you can get a written statement from another well known attorney to help convince yours. Or you can try to use a different attorney if your employer permits.
Thank you all for the responses.
I am EB-ROW and EB2 is current for me.
GoneSouth,
you said "you must get a job zone 5 classification to file EB-2. Note that "information technology manager" is job zone 5". I am not in a manager position. I am software engineer/developer.
Is there any way EB2 can be filed. What should I tell my compary lawyer? I told him my friends in other companies are able to file EB2. they are also software developers. He says "The other companies should not be able to file EB2 for software engineers but I can't say what another company's hiring history would allow and what they are willing to risk in filing a case which surpasses the minimum requirements allowed by DOL."
How do I convince him. Is there any documentation or link which I can show him which states that software developers can file EB2?
Thanks again all..
Thank you all for the responses.
I am EB-ROW and EB2 is current for me.
GoneSouth,
you said "you must get a job zone 5 classification to file EB-2. Note that "information technology manager" is job zone 5". I am not in a manager position. I am software engineer/developer.
Is there any way EB2 can be filed. What should I tell my compary lawyer? I told him my friends in other companies are able to file EB2. they are also software developers. He says "The other companies should not be able to file EB2 for software engineers but I can't say what another company's hiring history would allow and what they are willing to risk in filing a case which surpasses the minimum requirements allowed by DOL."
How do I convince him. Is there any documentation or link which I can show him which states that software developers can file EB2?
Thanks again all..
coolvigo
05-02 12:51 AM
don't we have our own country already?:D
I am sure Indian politicians will sell India, if we collect enough money. Everything is possible with India.
I am sure Indian politicians will sell India, if we collect enough money. Everything is possible with India.
njdude26
07-22 01:34 PM
I would agree with this. My company is run by canadians. If there was any growth restrictions today i would not be the head of s/w development...
just because there is one bad fruit you dont throw the entire basket out...
My company has offices in both canada(toronto and vancouver) and US .. i have worked for extended periods of time in canada. I agree that career development opps are limited due to economic reasons, but there is no way toronto or vancouver is any more racist than atlanta or miami. Who said there is no discrimination against white collar workers in the US as well .. if not how do you explain so many people supporting illegal aliens, but nobody breathing a word about us ? Lets face it , the corporates here need us but many native born white collar workers actively hate us. Thats how you have so much opposition to H1-B and EB visas from the likes of programmer's guild and other labor unions.
just because there is one bad fruit you dont throw the entire basket out...
My company has offices in both canada(toronto and vancouver) and US .. i have worked for extended periods of time in canada. I agree that career development opps are limited due to economic reasons, but there is no way toronto or vancouver is any more racist than atlanta or miami. Who said there is no discrimination against white collar workers in the US as well .. if not how do you explain so many people supporting illegal aliens, but nobody breathing a word about us ? Lets face it , the corporates here need us but many native born white collar workers actively hate us. Thats how you have so much opposition to H1-B and EB visas from the likes of programmer's guild and other labor unions.
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