h1techSlave
03-10 11:06 AM
Freakonomics and IV participation by EB3IFreakonomics
The guys from Freakonomics did an experiment in a Chicago school. They said they will give $50 to all students who will get a B or higher in all their subjects. After some time they have found out that students who were getting a grade in the vicinity of B earlier have improved their grades to B level. But the students who were already well below B, actually went down in the grading; from D to E for example. You can google for the details.
In the GC saga, what we need is a B grade or above.
EB3 Mexico already has a C grade, hence he tries hard to improve himself to a B grade.
EB3I is in D grade. We more or less feel that trying hard is a waste of our time. If we try hard, we might get a C grade (means EB2I folks will get GCs :( :( ). The end result is that we go from D to E. That is what you are really seeing.
PS: despite the above generalization, I am planning to participate in the advocacy days in DC and I have already contributed to the efforts. Because human beings defy logic and what is natural to other life forms on earth.
If we don't stand up for ourselves, no one will do it for us. Mexico continued its advance in today's bulletin but there are just too many people in the queue to get this solved the right way.
My esteemed colleagues from India and China, if I am worried enough to donate and register for the April event, WHY HAVENT YOU?
Register now or donate to help fund the event. This is our chance. Those $50 you will spend on dinner and a movie this weekend can help us solve this once and for all.
The guys from Freakonomics did an experiment in a Chicago school. They said they will give $50 to all students who will get a B or higher in all their subjects. After some time they have found out that students who were getting a grade in the vicinity of B earlier have improved their grades to B level. But the students who were already well below B, actually went down in the grading; from D to E for example. You can google for the details.
In the GC saga, what we need is a B grade or above.
EB3 Mexico already has a C grade, hence he tries hard to improve himself to a B grade.
EB3I is in D grade. We more or less feel that trying hard is a waste of our time. If we try hard, we might get a C grade (means EB2I folks will get GCs :( :( ). The end result is that we go from D to E. That is what you are really seeing.
PS: despite the above generalization, I am planning to participate in the advocacy days in DC and I have already contributed to the efforts. Because human beings defy logic and what is natural to other life forms on earth.
If we don't stand up for ourselves, no one will do it for us. Mexico continued its advance in today's bulletin but there are just too many people in the queue to get this solved the right way.
My esteemed colleagues from India and China, if I am worried enough to donate and register for the April event, WHY HAVENT YOU?
Register now or donate to help fund the event. This is our chance. Those $50 you will spend on dinner and a movie this weekend can help us solve this once and for all.
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ianlock
09-13 12:40 PM
I think it was a pun, arse-ole => stinks !! :-)
sorry i didnt realise.
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sorry i didnt realise.
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NoMoreSilence
01-18 07:35 AM
:confused: I donated $101 thru Paypal yesterday to move the number 14386 up fast. But it did not change at all!!:confused:
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h1vegas
06-23 11:58 PM
Thanks Dilip
I appreciate it
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mpadapa
10-02 01:21 PM
Looks like this meeting is going to be fun..
I'll try my best to make it..
I'll try my best to make it..
hebbar77
05-02 12:36 AM
hahaha...good one belmont boy
Yes my note was for humor.
But to answer questions :
out of all useful land , I guess africa has lots of uninhabited land!, so someone would not mind selling! Its not to offend anyone. I have great respect for africans, being aware that we come from them!
Me being an indian upper class guy, and this OBC thing going on back home, I dont think I belong to that country that much, where me/my children will be discreminated against!!!
So dont you guys now think we need our OWN country???
Yes my note was for humor.
But to answer questions :
out of all useful land , I guess africa has lots of uninhabited land!, so someone would not mind selling! Its not to offend anyone. I have great respect for africans, being aware that we come from them!
Me being an indian upper class guy, and this OBC thing going on back home, I dont think I belong to that country that much, where me/my children will be discreminated against!!!
So dont you guys now think we need our OWN country???
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eb3retro
10-15 10:12 AM
Anyone? any updates on their pending AP renewal from Nebraska?
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anil
04-14 07:27 PM
Not sure if this helps, but this kind of thing happened to me 8 years back when my wife was pregnant. I asked my employer about insurance; he said I can continue coverage if I keep paying my premiums. Even if you have to pay a bit more than actual premium it should be better than not having at all. The other option is COBRA as some one already mentioned.
If that does not work out, call your current insurance company and ask them what are your options in the event you lose your job. You don't have to tell them that you're going to be laid off yet. As the wise say, we don't have to tell everything to the other person until it is really required to disclose. You might end up finding some facts that you probably are not aware of.
God bless.
If that does not work out, call your current insurance company and ask them what are your options in the event you lose your job. You don't have to tell them that you're going to be laid off yet. As the wise say, we don't have to tell everything to the other person until it is really required to disclose. You might end up finding some facts that you probably are not aware of.
God bless.
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Madhuri
07-02 02:15 PM
If this is true, it is really scary for people who are solely on EAD and no longer hold H1 status.
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alterego
10-03 07:37 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21833
This is indeed a gloomy and (in my view credible) story. The only thing possibly that can help us within the current laws, is the visa overflow from EB1 and EB2 ROW.
Lets hope for the best. The Nov. Visa bulletin will be confirmatory.
This is indeed a gloomy and (in my view credible) story. The only thing possibly that can help us within the current laws, is the visa overflow from EB1 and EB2 ROW.
Lets hope for the best. The Nov. Visa bulletin will be confirmatory.
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pappu
08-22 02:16 PM
Hi Diptam,
You spoiled Aadimanav's day already :D:D
No Diptam spoiled several years of his .... :D:D:D
You spoiled Aadimanav's day already :D:D
No Diptam spoiled several years of his .... :D:D:D
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abhijitp
03-10 02:12 PM
Interesting experiment, and I can see that is how human beings respond sometimes.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
Freakonomics and IV participation by EB3IFreakonomics
The guys from Freakonomics did an experiment in a Chicago school. They said they will give $50 to all students who will get a B or higher in all their subjects. After some time they have found out that students who were getting a grade in the vicinity of B earlier have improved their grades to B level. But the students who were already well below B, actually went down in the grading; from D to E for example. You can google for the details.
In the GC saga, what we need is a B grade or above.
EB3 Mexico already has a C grade, hence he tries hard to improve himself to a B grade.
EB3I is in D grade. We more or less feel that trying hard is a waste of our time. If we try hard, we might get a C grade (means EB2I folks will get GCs :( :( ). The end result is that we go from D to E. That is what you are really seeing.
PS: despite the above generalization, I am planning to participate in the advocacy days in DC and I have already contributed to the efforts. Because human beings defy logic and what is natural to other life forms on earth.
However we are guaranteed something in return when we TRY to do what we believe in, regardless of the odds as we see them: the satisfaction of DOING something about it, and a real shot at getting what we want.
Easy to try it. Pick anything, literally anything about your life you want to change (from changing your job to losing weight to calling up your parents more frequently).
Then WITHOUT THE FEAR OF FAILURE, do something about it. It will either work out, which will be terrific. Or it won't... maybe you don't success at that job interview after all, or you still put on weight. Even then, the satisfaction that comes from having TRIED is yours to keep! (Personally, I have found this to be more motivating for trying those things again, as opposed to the hopelessness that results from not trying and then seeing things not improve.) And of course, since failure is only one of two possibilities that there can be, you do succeed 50% of the times that you try honestly!
In case of IV's efforts including the upcoming Advocacy Day, that is exactly how I feel.
Freakonomics and IV participation by EB3IFreakonomics
The guys from Freakonomics did an experiment in a Chicago school. They said they will give $50 to all students who will get a B or higher in all their subjects. After some time they have found out that students who were getting a grade in the vicinity of B earlier have improved their grades to B level. But the students who were already well below B, actually went down in the grading; from D to E for example. You can google for the details.
In the GC saga, what we need is a B grade or above.
EB3 Mexico already has a C grade, hence he tries hard to improve himself to a B grade.
EB3I is in D grade. We more or less feel that trying hard is a waste of our time. If we try hard, we might get a C grade (means EB2I folks will get GCs :( :( ). The end result is that we go from D to E. That is what you are really seeing.
PS: despite the above generalization, I am planning to participate in the advocacy days in DC and I have already contributed to the efforts. Because human beings defy logic and what is natural to other life forms on earth.
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Norristown
09-23 10:23 AM
:confused:Looks like IV is proactive!!. NumberUSA is weeping that they came to know this mark up yesterday late night.
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*****'From NumberUSA website...
House Judiciary Com. to Vote Today on Foreign-Worker Bills
Updated Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 10:00 AM
Public Notice for Markup Given in Dead of Night Yesterday
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aadimanav
08-22 02:09 PM
What is ur PD, Diptam?
hey aadimanav,
If the legislations dont change - my estimate would be even more than
7 years (come on they already have 500k pending app before this 300k
July2nd boom).
What Franklin said very logical - very realistic !
Thanks,
Diptam
hey aadimanav,
If the legislations dont change - my estimate would be even more than
7 years (come on they already have 500k pending app before this 300k
July2nd boom).
What Franklin said very logical - very realistic !
Thanks,
Diptam
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gcisadawg
03-18 01:17 PM
Guys, lets not divide the community again. Everyone is suffering in their own ways due to backlogs. I know some EB2 folks who got GC, got a home and now their home price is way down.
If we complain about discrimination, we don't have a case. Look at EB3-I distribution between 2003 and 2008, inclusive.
Year EB1 EB2 EB3
2003 1,266 8,536 10,647
2004 2,998 16,262 19,889
2005 6,336 16,687 23,250
2006 3,156 3,720 3,006
2007 2,855 6,203 17,795
2008 5,327 14,819 3,576
21,938 66,227 78,163
I understand all of those EB3-I visas were not given to software folks. It included lots of nurses and physiotherapists also. Nevertheless, they were under EB3-I quota. In all the years listed above, visas allocated to EB3-I were higher than 7% country quota for India which is about 2803 visas. ( .07 * .286 * 140,000)
Peace,
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If we complain about discrimination, we don't have a case. Look at EB3-I distribution between 2003 and 2008, inclusive.
Year EB1 EB2 EB3
2003 1,266 8,536 10,647
2004 2,998 16,262 19,889
2005 6,336 16,687 23,250
2006 3,156 3,720 3,006
2007 2,855 6,203 17,795
2008 5,327 14,819 3,576
21,938 66,227 78,163
I understand all of those EB3-I visas were not given to software folks. It included lots of nurses and physiotherapists also. Nevertheless, they were under EB3-I quota. In all the years listed above, visas allocated to EB3-I were higher than 7% country quota for India which is about 2803 visas. ( .07 * .286 * 140,000)
Peace,
G
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unitednations
04-20 02:28 PM
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
USCIS in eb3 used to allow the langauge "combination of educatoin and experience is acceptable to meet bachelors requriement" in eb3. This was before they broke out the different classification of professional and skilled worker in eb3. now they have broken it out separately on the form. If labor allows combination, then person is supposed to file as "skilled worker".
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
USCIS in eb3 used to allow the langauge "combination of educatoin and experience is acceptable to meet bachelors requriement" in eb3. This was before they broke out the different classification of professional and skilled worker in eb3. now they have broken it out separately on the form. If labor allows combination, then person is supposed to file as "skilled worker".
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gcpadmavyuh
03-17 12:06 PM
Sahaayam:
My personal advice - you should consult with an experienced attorney with the specifics of your case. This is not a very typical case, and what you hear on this forum may not be very useful for you.
Gurus,
Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the �Court Disposition Document� which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel
Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.
Appreciate all your inputs.
Have a nice day!!!
Thank you,
Sahaayam.
My personal advice - you should consult with an experienced attorney with the specifics of your case. This is not a very typical case, and what you hear on this forum may not be very useful for you.
Gurus,
Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the �Court Disposition Document� which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel
Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.
Appreciate all your inputs.
Have a nice day!!!
Thank you,
Sahaayam.
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vivekm1309
05-28 03:13 PM
Good point , but neither H1B says its only for INNOVATORS rather it says only SKILLED workers. Not even every PhD is innovator . May be in some circumstances the so said perspective is true but i dont agree with every point.
There are no enough Americans who can do the Job if you guys think its H1B and remove H1B every Job will land as an outsourcing . If not h1B many Outsourcing IT firms will find some way to temp bring IT pros and eventually outsource.
The Key point that IV is making is how much taxes we are paying and how good we are making to American economy. If they remove H1B ,then they understand how and what they have lost.
Good points, only thing to add is not all innovations can be brought to notice to relate to a sinle employee ...most of the times we as employees are part of systemic effort that is innovating. It would be wrong to say that H1-bs are not contributing towards innovation anymore.
There are no enough Americans who can do the Job if you guys think its H1B and remove H1B every Job will land as an outsourcing . If not h1B many Outsourcing IT firms will find some way to temp bring IT pros and eventually outsource.
The Key point that IV is making is how much taxes we are paying and how good we are making to American economy. If they remove H1B ,then they understand how and what they have lost.
Good points, only thing to add is not all innovations can be brought to notice to relate to a sinle employee ...most of the times we as employees are part of systemic effort that is innovating. It would be wrong to say that H1-bs are not contributing towards innovation anymore.
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vagish
04-28 09:41 PM
I tend to think a point system is better than what we have now. One thing though is that the points should be allocated "properly". For example, more points should be given to people with higher education, who earned a US degree, who have worked in the US for more years, who have paid more taxes, etc.
Someone mentioned a good point is about the visa number limits. If the per country limits are not eliminated, the points system won't solve the problem. Of course, they should also give more points to people who have passed Labor and I140 and allow them to adjust status right away. Otherwise, we will further get stuck in all the backlogs. Poor us. :(
I think if all the above issues are solved/cleared, probably a point system is good for us (i.e., EB based immigrants who are now stuck due to backlogs and retrogression). :p
Once you have a point system , a whole lot of people will be qualified, many more than currently on H1B from other countries , it will again clog the system, remember for canada the waiting time in india is 5 years now for skilled people who have enough points.
Again it goes to the basics how many skilled ot semi-skilled people they want in this country.
thanks
Someone mentioned a good point is about the visa number limits. If the per country limits are not eliminated, the points system won't solve the problem. Of course, they should also give more points to people who have passed Labor and I140 and allow them to adjust status right away. Otherwise, we will further get stuck in all the backlogs. Poor us. :(
I think if all the above issues are solved/cleared, probably a point system is good for us (i.e., EB based immigrants who are now stuck due to backlogs and retrogression). :p
Once you have a point system , a whole lot of people will be qualified, many more than currently on H1B from other countries , it will again clog the system, remember for canada the waiting time in india is 5 years now for skilled people who have enough points.
Again it goes to the basics how many skilled ot semi-skilled people they want in this country.
thanks
hpandey
01-15 11:52 AM
Recently I met one friend. He was visiting his friend for vacation in New Orelans. When he was washing his hands in the rest room (in a shopping complex or Mall), suddenly he saw 3 or 4 guys surrounding him, hit him and took away his vallet and cell phone. Within a short time his credit card was used for a huge money around $2000. He was hit so bad that his nose bones broke into pieces and he has metal installed now for him to breath properly. I am not sure if this is due to bad economy or enemity over immigrants.
New Orleans was already in a bad shape due to Hurricane Katrina. Crime there is very high after what it went through. Anyway all these attacks have more to do with robbery ( or altercations ) rather than legal immigration attacks. The attackers don't care while attacking you whether you are here legally or illegally.
Sanju said the exact right thing. No need to be paranoid.
New Orleans was already in a bad shape due to Hurricane Katrina. Crime there is very high after what it went through. Anyway all these attacks have more to do with robbery ( or altercations ) rather than legal immigration attacks. The attackers don't care while attacking you whether you are here legally or illegally.
Sanju said the exact right thing. No need to be paranoid.
ohguy
09-27 12:03 PM
It was for renewal.
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question: Were you applying AP for the first time or renewal ?
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question: Were you applying AP for the first time or renewal ?
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